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- June 22, 2018 at 11:36 am #159985
Mike Ruff, GW editorKeymaster
MOT test stations are being accused of “bullying motorists into repairs” because of confusing DVSA wording which means drivers could be ‘held to ranso
[See the full post at: Garages accused of “bullying” customers into repairs following MOT change]June 22, 2018 at 2:03 pm #160001
I am afraid that I feared unscrupulous Fast-fits would take advantage of the new rules, this has played into their hands unfortunately.June 22, 2018 at 3:27 pm #160002
A lot of the wording in the the “new” mot test is grammatically incorrect.
It makes me wonder what level of education those who wrote it had/have.June 22, 2018 at 4:56 pm #160003
I agree with Nigel Tye above. But the sad fact is that some of the “fast fits” used to abuse the old system so I’m not really surprised that they’ve welcomed the new wording!
But really this sort of article doesn’t need to be printed here where we all know what goes on it should be in the national press. Or better yet reported to DVSA with the names of the test stations concerned.June 22, 2018 at 5:09 pm #160004
Unfortunately this is all down to trust, something that we work hard to build up with our customers, and something that benefits all people concerned.
I’m sure that everyone could tell a (true) story about a car that has come to their workshop with supposed dangerous faults diagnosed elsewhere be it a fast fit chain, main dealership, or a mobile mechanic, only to find out the parts are not faulty or in need of replacement.
A lot of customers are very gullible and sadly, this can mean that they take the word of someone as true, just because they work for a large, well-know organisation who advertise in the papers and on TV (and how can they afford to pay for that?). This isn’t the fault of VOSA or anyone else, I thing it’s down to us honest independants to keep on doing a good honest job, and educate the public so that they understand this.June 22, 2018 at 7:21 pm #160005
I don’t think I’ve read anything above that implies the new mot rules have caused this to suddenly start occurring. I’ve been in the mot scheme for some 22 years, I have not read anything above that does not seem to be the standard daily working practices of some outfits. DVSA do however need to get their act together and sort the wording of the regulations out, I believe only an office boy would believe they are correctly presented. Until they are sorted out, until DVSA actually understand what is and what is not a dangerous defect, without professional sounding waffle to justify their views, vehicle will continue to fail for dangerous defects, that DVSA believe are dangerous, but the motoring public who drive their vehicles for many miles a day/per week must sometimes think to themselves that DVSA actually don’t really understand from the real world experience what really does constitute a “Dangerous” defect. The MTS program is set by DVSA so no MOT Garage can decide what is or is not dangerous, like headlamp aim too high at 2.00 PM in the afternoon of a sunny day where the lights can be switched off, but it is dangerous in the Test Station for a few minutes being tested in a beam setter? I could go on…June 22, 2018 at 8:07 pm #160006
It’s not just fast fits unfortunately. I recovered a car to a garage in different part of the country. As I was unloading, the owner of the garage approached me carrying a pair of brake discs and pads. He had a customer with him. He asked my opinion of the pads and discs. The discs were fine, and the pads were about half to two thirds worn. I said that if the owner did a lot of mileage, I might have changed the pads, but if he didn’t, they would be o/k until the next service. The garage had recently serviced the vehicle and the owner had taken it to a main dealer shortly after for a recall. The dealer told the owner that they had done the recall, but said that on their general examination of the vehicle they found that the front brake discs and pads were ‘dangerous’, and that he should not take it away in this condition. The owner told them to put the vehicle right and he would complain to the other garage as it had just been serviced. As I say, I was independent in the matter and there was nothing wrong with these brakes.June 22, 2018 at 8:13 pm #160007
I’ve had that as well Eddie. During the recent airbag recall on a lot of Japanese cars every single one came back with a whole list of “other work which needed to be done urgently”. Not a single one of them was justified!June 23, 2018 at 6:45 am #160008
goodmans autos ltd
shenley road borehamwood herts wd6 1ds
I would like to state in the mot law if knackered then its a failure and if in doubt then pass and advice, i have checked the mot out with DVSA and there has been no changes to the standard of testing they have made us aware that the is certain areas that we have to state on the advisors on the corrosion ie brake discs and coil springs etc.i have had a concern that the fast outfits are going to make or scare the individuals in saying there car is unsafe SO PLEASE ask a second opinion.
THE OTHER THING IS YOU CAN DRIVE YOUR CAR WITH NO MOT on a booking and with no tax THE CAR IS NOT legally roadworthy so really you should be able to return the car back unless its really DANGEROUS then i would say its has to be recovered back to there premississ of there choice.
my name is ian of goodmans autos of borehamwood hertsJuly 4, 2018 at 11:08 am #160433
The problem relates to the wording on the Mot fail sheet. Do not drive. Dangerous. Not at all surprising why garages are holding customers to ransom. Garages are actually using scare tactics in conning customers. Dvsa need to re think. The old system worked for years and never resulted from any catastrophies, so why all this sudden change. Whist it is important to have safe vehicles on the road and be properly tested the current wordings will I am afraid remain an easy target for garages to make money. Their are a lot of unhappy customers. Unfortunately through cut backs their aren’t enough Dvsa inspectors to police it all.August 8, 2018 at 12:08 pm #162386
I think every ones missing the point, if honesty was the byword then their would not be a problem, however money talks and greed takes over, in reality their is only one way to stop this, make it mandatory for the MOT station that as part of their licence they cannot repair a vehicle they fail, some may loose out but if applied to all, what goes round would come round and all would get a share of the work with no cheating. simple realy