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July 25, 2018 at 4:25 pm #161490
Mike Ruff, GW editorKeymaster
The Independent Garage Association and National Franchised Dealers Association has strongly opposed today’s report from The Adam Smith Institute recom
[See the full post at: BREAKING: Fierce opposition as shock report calls on ministers to scrap the MOT test]July 25, 2018 at 4:49 pm #161494
Alex Hoagland, author of the paper looks at statistics. A bit like the statistics that record police crime figures, they do not reflect the real world.
I would wager that if Alex took his car for a MOT test and it passed, then subsequently a component that should have failed the test but was missed, broke, he would sue the arse off the test station!July 25, 2018 at 7:13 pm #161497
45 park road,swinton,,nr mexborough,,i think it should be not compulsury to put yr car through a mot,,only if you want to mot it,,,i maintain my cars myself,,,,so i know when a part as worn out,which i would replace it,,t would love it not compulsary for mot testing,,,July 25, 2018 at 7:15 pm #161498
45 park road,swinton,,nr mexborough,,i would love mot not compulsary…July 25, 2018 at 8:47 pm #161500
If you work on cars then you will know how things can escalate into dangerous very quickly when not attended to. I own a garage and still think it necessary to have an MOT test. The general public cannot be expected to know if a serious and potentially life threatening defect is on their vehicle. How would you feel if someone didn’t get a car MOT’d and a part failed on that car and killed a or your child or loved one. I think you would be the first one cuing for a prosecution for negligence of maintaining a vehicle. I know I would. Having the idea of no Compusory MOT test is the biggest lack of common sense I’ve seen in a while!!July 25, 2018 at 10:20 pm #161501
I HOPE THIS IS A JOKE. I AM AN MOT TESTER AND THE CONDITION THAT SOME VEHICLES ARE IN BECAUSE OF DRIVERS FAILING TO CHECK THE OBVIOUS AND CAUSING A DANGER TO INNOCENT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. HOW WOULD ANY OF YOU FEEL IF YOU WERE WALKING DOWN THE ROAD AND A CAR WITH 4 BALD TYRES AND BRAKES NOT WORKING PLOUGHED INTO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY KILLING EVERY ONE OF YOU? THE MOT ENSURES THAT THE BARE MINIMUM SAFETY COMPONENTS ON A VEHICLE ARE NOT LIKELY TO FAIL OR CAUSE SOMEONE TO LOSE CONTROL OF THEIR VEHICLE. PEOPLE THAT EVEN THINK ABOUT GETTING RID OF THE MOT TEST ARE UNEDUCATED AND PROBABLY DONT CHECK THEIR OWN VEHICLES. ITS 20-40 PER YEAR. THATS 7p PER WEEK !! DONT COME OUT WITH THESE RIDICULOUS IDEAS WHEN THE RULES ARE THERE FOR A REASON. THE MOT TEST ISNT THERE TO RIP PEOPLE OFF ITS THERE TO SAVE PEOPLES LIVES. END OF !!July 26, 2018 at 12:49 pm #161530
The person who dreamed that up has probably got a company car anyway so he wont drive any thing older than a couple of years. This is what happens when someone with no life experience gets a sniff of authority.July 26, 2018 at 9:59 pm #161558
Yes always to an MOT. Drivers can be lazy and those that decide not to mot will most certainly be the ones that cause fatalities.
But bring the old mot back the new one is a money maker for garages and unecessary for motorists.July 27, 2018 at 12:22 pm #161627
Would Dave Winstanley not be upset if he was severely injured in an accident caused by a poorly maintained and dangerous vehicle colliding with his vehicle.July 27, 2018 at 12:26 pm #161628
What the hell is the ‘adam smith institute’? who asked for there opinion? and who funded their deluded inquiry? I have no clear evidence that they are a bunch of clueless idiots but there has never been a report to say they are not so therefore they must be!!!!!!!!!!!July 27, 2018 at 12:26 pm #161629
Never gonna happen
The government would shit at the amount of unemployment it would cause so don’t worry omly scare mongering as usual.July 27, 2018 at 12:34 pm #161631
People have busy lives and the MOT is an important safety check that would not happen, in my opinion, for the majority of people unless they were compelled to do so. They are not reckless, just busy. The MOT failure rate is an indicator as to how cars do need looking at yearly in order to keep them roadworthy and prevent other more serious problems. Its a service that we perform for customers. Let’s ask the Adam Smith Institute how he proposes to motivate people to keep their cars safe other than through an MOT, perhaps he has a perfectly plausible idea that this article is missing.July 27, 2018 at 12:42 pm #161632
Omg ! Wot a joke , I’m a tester and own a garage , and the amount of people that don’t even service there cars and do the bare min every year to pass an mot is unreal . Those cars wouldn’t even get checked but would still be on the roadJuly 27, 2018 at 12:50 pm #161634
We already have exemptions for the over 40s, putting the responsibility for roadworthiness onto the driver/rider. They, like Mr Winstanley above, obviously have a ramp, tools, brake and emission testing equipment, not to mention the technical expertise to know what they’re looking at. Now Mr Hoagland wants to take the test out of the system altogether so we have to use driverless cars (and ban motorcycles presumably).
What a bunch of fools. Go round the car park of any club meeting for cars over 40 years and have a look at the rust that hasn’t been attended to, the tyres that have been left to rot, the brakes that need attention. Of course, the owner will do all of these things to comply with roadworthiness (when they feel like doing the work). And now… all vehicles should be left to the owners to take out a contract or do the work themselves. Really? Better still, why not ban all cars and bikes? That’ll keep the roads safe at least. The Govt values a human life at £1.2m versus the cost of an MOT test. Do the maths.July 27, 2018 at 12:50 pm #161636
I instil on MOT testers that when they carry out MOT tests on my car and my immediate family cars that the test is completed in its entirety giving a thorough examination. I then have the opportunity to carry out any rectification work to those vehicles and ensure that my family are safe on the road. If I ignore the information I am given it is my fault as an owner/driver and I should take responsibility for my decisions.
Will the people who advocate this proposal accept and take full responsibility for the outcome of their decisions. I do not think so. Long live MOT 3+1+1July 27, 2018 at 1:24 pm #161637
really!!!! haven’t they got better things to do that waste time and money on surveys for something that clearly only has a positive effect on vehicles and road safety. unfortunately the general public cant be trusted to make sure there vehicle are up together and safe and most don’t even know what they are looking at anyway. its not broken and has worked for years so stop trying to fix it.July 27, 2018 at 1:35 pm #161638
Most of you above are right, problem is the government and it agencies and for that matter these research companies do not live in the real world, i wouldn’t be surprised if they advocated scrapping the driving test as lets be honest it doesn’t make for safer drivers it only proves they have a bare minimum of knowledge. personally I think we should have the same system as some of Europe, your car no matter of mileage must have an annual service by a registered service centre, then you could perhaps stretch the MOT to 4-2-2. and at the same time alter the driving test to, once passed up to 40 horse power and only one passenger for 5 years then an assessment test to see if the driver has improved their skills to be given a full unlimited licence, it woks really well in other countries, why not here. it will never happen as ministers have to much invested in itJuly 27, 2018 at 1:42 pm #161639
he has based his findings from America!!!! where different states have different laws!!!!!!July 27, 2018 at 1:48 pm #161640
Isn’t this the very same clique of extreme right-wing ideologues that conned us into believing that Brexit was good for our country? The real problem is that this Tory government is riddled with people who think in just the same way!July 27, 2018 at 3:10 pm #161643
Bushey Hall DriveJuly 27, 2018 at 3:15 pm #161644
What an absolute joke especially following on from the idiotic European 4-2-2 idea which thankfully was withdrawn. Whoever thinks up these ideas should spend a day in an MOT station and look at some of the dangerous vehicles we see on a daily basis, some of which are on their first test.
In this day and age , unlike yesteryear, most motorists dont look look after their vehicles, some never even look under the bonnet to check oil and water let alone check tyres. At my MOT station I always advise customers to call down so we can do basic checks for them on a regular basis and then we can warn them of impending problems.
Oh and all this is to encourage driverless cars ???? Dont be daft , whose going to carry the blame if and when they are involved in a serious death causing accident. Well it was the computers fault …. bring it on !!!!July 27, 2018 at 4:06 pm #161646
alex did you hear this discussion on love islandJuly 27, 2018 at 4:55 pm #161635
I can barely hold myself back here….. “the Adam Smith Institute” is a think tank, famed for proposing stupid ideas that rarely become poilcy. Another loony lefty dubiously funded (tobacco industry?) bunch of idiots trying to be controversial….Ignore it..!July 27, 2018 at 6:03 pm #161650
Wow! the Adam Smith Institute sounds like a great place to work. No doubt highly educated, intellectual types who sit around smoking crack and coming up with some ‘amazing’ ideas. Good work guys, keep the ideas flowing. I do hope you are being paid well.
Or her’s another option, come to my garage for a couple of days and experience the real reason MOT’s are conducted. And meet some of the customers who’s cars are only safe to drive because they have been forced into maintaining them to the absolute minimum standard.July 27, 2018 at 6:06 pm #161651
When will politicians leave the MOT system alone, don’t play politics with peoples lives. If you look at road deaths before the MOTs system started in the 1960s which were massive. this has been cut massively with vehicle population growing year on year.
Why spend time and money trying stop something that works and makes the county a safer please to travel and live in
the cost is 01.5p per day
This is just a political red herring to hide their bad decisions. As a AE we see vehicles which should not be on the road with tyres with no tread vehicles with no lights, emission over the limit and many other items
Don’t idiots leave it to the professional who work tireless to keep this country a safer place to live and travel. If wish to save the motorist some money drop the VAT on fuel !!!
AE with 25 years of Vehicle MOT testing Watford