MOT tester RAG scores: is red actually bad?

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    Mark Hughes

    The DVSA has confirmed that MOT testers who are currently rated red should not change how they are operating, as long as they know they are practising
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    #172333 Reply


    “If you’re confident in what you are doing and can explain it, carry on.”

    And can explain it ?? WTF

    This takes the piss. If it has excessive play , or tyre below 1.6mm its failed FULL STOP. How the hell do you ” explain that” idiots !

    #172334 Reply


    Cars pass or fail based on merit it is deemed the minimum standards of vehicle condition. So if I test 10 vehicles and they meet the minimum standards I will pass the vehicles regardless of what colour the DVSA say I’m on equally i will fail the vehicles to. My personal experience with the test scheme over the last 10 year’s is standards have lowered considering the fast fit outfits now use the test scheme as a way to milk Joe public.

    #172335 Reply


    Isn’t amber in the middle of green and red. Some may say the average of the average.

    Where should we be again ?

    #172336 Reply


    I think some testers see this as targeting them but actually it is just management control of the mot scheme. Different areas of the country and varying makes and models of vehicles, including test classes will show different evidence from different areas but I don’t think testers should be worrying about it. I think testers need to think differently about the figures and the colour scheme used to identify vehicles and categories of their defects. If a tester is testing class 7 all day every day then their fail rate will be quite high compared to a tester in a main dealer testing 3 year old cars that probably seldom fail. Does this mean the class 7 tester is doing a bad job shown in the RED! Clearly not, and the staff at DVSA analyzing the figures are also looking at the types of fail that might suggest something in the manufacturing industry needs to change, thus in the longer term projections the fail rate will then reduce. The testers might be looking at the figures thinking about the ‘hear and now’ but DVSA could be looking at longer term changes in the design of vehicle components from the data, and not targeting the testers as some might think.

    #173121 Reply


    Qoute : “Don’t change your behaviour if you’re red.
    “If you’re confident in what you are doing and can explain it, carry on.”Not good advice
    If red is a higher risk then why remain in it and how are you ever going to be in amber or green!!!!

    #174412 Reply


    my rag is green but i was told by vosa that my failure rate was quite high which it is and suggested i pass and advise on certain components
    but whilst they give you averages for age of vehicle and types of failures one thing they dont include is average mileage
    in my case 95% of the vehicles i test are taxis and depending if it has one or two drivers can put 30 to 70 thousand miles
    a year on the clock hence the high failure rate which shows me up as a over cautious tester

    #174821 Reply

    C Gibbs

    Yes that’s right Ronnie, it’s not all about the age of the vehicles, I seem to have a high proportion of very high mileage cars, it has got me thinking no, and make me question sometimes,for example is that play in a ball joint possibly an advice and not a fail. Am I being a bit hard, not everything is black and white like say a light not working.

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