R134a to be phased out so get ready for R1234yf, say suppliers

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R134a to be phased out so get ready for R1234yf, say suppliers
WAECO air conditioning service unit.

Independent garage owners are being encouraged to “get ready” for R1234yf refrigerant, which was first used by vehicle manufacturers in 2011 and is now found in all new car air conditioning systems since 2017.

Air conditioning service unit manufacturer, Dometic said: “Many makes and models of vehicles have had R1234yf for a number of years prior to the above which will be seen in aftermarket garages.

“R134a is banned in new cars with new chassis manufactured after 2010 and will also be banned in new cars manufactured 2017.”

However, Dometic added that “R134a will remain on the market for decades” and that it “will still be used in other vehicles”.

It said: “Time and time again we see air conditioning service units being offered in the marketplace that do not meet the technical requirements for use with R1234yf.”

“Workshops are most likely to have two different air conditioning service units in the future, because R134a and R1234yf are not compatible with each other.”

Refrigerant prices

It’s thought prices for R1234yf will be considerably higher than R134a.

Due to the variation in prices on refrigerant, WAECO offer a “low emission concept”, which will recover 99.9 per cent of refrigerant.

Dometic concludes: “Conventional service units may lose up to 100 grams of refrigerant per use through the vacuum pump and during oil recovery.

“This is all different with the ASC 5500 G RPA from WAECO.

“Based on the low-emission principle, it has a refrigerant loss rate of close to zero per cent.”

Related: Revised F-Gas regulation now starting to affect UK workshops, say trade bodies

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    Jon Morgan

    Regarding the statement:- “R134a is banned in new cars with new chassis manufactured after 2010 and will also be banned in new cars manufactured 2017.”
    Where does this information come from? VAG and Daimler Benz were still using R134a in new model releases all the way up to 2017 and were filling with R134a until dieselgate broke and they felt compelled to comply with the EU in other areas so opted to toe the line regards R1234yf

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    Hi Jon, thanks for your post. The information was supplied via Dometic – we’ll look into it and ensure it’s correct though!

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    Rabb

    Only the US made this a standard on vehicles produced/imported in the country, Europe doesn’t have that legislation yet, Kia/Hyundai produce 50/50 of both gases.
    Jaguar and LR only use new gas because they come under a specific manufacturing production of vehicles.
    R134a will be used for many years, it’s still a clean/safe gas to use considering what has been used until an alternative is made and y1234 isn’t one of them.

    I train, qualify persons for FGas certification and service/repair all service machines of both gases, Daimler use the R744 on certain S,E classes and that’s still only selected vehicles.

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    Bill Lewis

    so this was just a thinly veiled advert from Dometic.. ?

    #159697 Reply

    ERic remington

    Im from USA and Harry homeowner can buy r134a w/out license and we have to have recovery machine. Dupont comes out with a new patent every 20 years r1234yf. tree huggers climate control all bunch of malarkey. In US r134a 5 dollars a pound r1234a.75..does that tell you something? smell the coffee. WE are getting stiffed. cows emit more co2 than cars and trees breath the stuff.

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